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network superior Wisconsin alien ghosts

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demons a turkey from shadow people

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through the outlandish heidi hollis the

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come welcome everybody to my awesome

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friday evening you're listening to me

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howdy how's the Outlander so get

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comfortable everybody it is a hot steamy

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day here in Chicago let me tell you

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because wow I'm melting I am melting I

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don't know if you could hear my fan

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blowing in the background

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air-conditioned isn't working so great

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so let it be I want to tell you guys a

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little bit about this program when it

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comes to anything out to Ned dish I

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don't care what it is holy encounters

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which are actually my favorite

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near-death experiences Bigfoot orbs I

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always say if it's weird we're here and

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so are you you're among friends

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everybody if you do not know who I am I

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welcome you to go and check out my main

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website which is heidi hollis com hei di

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hol L is and i always say i am someone

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who has been there seen that experienced

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it freaked out found some answers wrote

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about it got over it and now i'm hoping

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to help others do the same thing and

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understand this crazy crazy crazy world

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of ours just because just because uh you

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know i have to tell you i am working on

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a project you guys that i want to invite

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you guys to all join me i am looking to

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help those of you who are experiencing

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things out of the ordinary when it comes

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to anything with disturbances in your

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sleep night terrors nightmares

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sleepwalking sleep paralysis waking up

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seeing odd things i really really really

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really really feel passionate about this

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project and it is for a major cable

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network woohoo that is finally you know

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tipping their hat towards this topic and

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i'm happy to be helping out to see this

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thing come to life so please write me at

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dusk outlander @ gmail.com d as in David

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AAS Outlander outl a ND or gmail com and

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tell me your story even if its brief

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long whatever it is and that the goal is

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to get you help how about that I don't

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care if it's paranormally related or not

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or whether you know it or not or

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whatever as long as something is going

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on people have witnessed it or you know

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it and we're just going to tackle it and

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take it on oh look i'm dropping things

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so yeah so please do do that and i want

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to tell you guys also be sure i get a

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lot of people ask me because that my

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of I kind of I kind of hurt myself um so

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I i have i have started my show up again

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and people are just like we win when

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where how can i hear you know iron has

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an awesome app get the app at your app

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calm and click the radio link and i have

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skype your comments and questions to

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in the chat room I'm not there the

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second but I'm about to get in there um

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and if you want to ask me a question why

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I am here doing the show alive Friday

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Friday night laughs um I will take a

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look at that put it all in caps it's

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just so much easier for me to spot those

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to do our when I just take all your

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outlandish corner wrong

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ended corner um what is the outlandish

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you'll go right and give you some honest

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advice when and if i configure or muster

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i'm i'm trying to do some here mmm that

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working okay yay all right so I'm gonna

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get into the chat room here just

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dilly-dallying I got a little bit of

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bronchitis so if I choke god help me a

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whoo-ha okay I'm breathing I'm breathing

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the way this humid weather does not help

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alright so i am going to go to the

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through some of these lovely lovely

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email such you guys have set me hmm

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let's see um no same no no okay that the

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big one all right okay I think I've got

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one I think I've got one all right this

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one says oh boy okay dear Heidi okay all

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right dear Heidi my first experience

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with the hat man was when I was six

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years old I saw him for the first time

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standing at the end of my bed staring at

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me funny thing was I wasn't afraid I was

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startled but not afraid of this guy even

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at the tender age of six I had seen and

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heard my fair share of scary things and

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to me this man was not one of them he

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brought me comfort oh boy here we go I

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could hear him walking up the stairs in

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her house almost nightly and I knew he

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was standing in the hallway I would get

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up and open the door and wait for him I

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got the distinct feeling that he was

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there to protect me the house I grew up

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in had many entities living there there

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was a man in black that lurked around

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all parts of the house and there was a

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woman i'd like to turn the water on and

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all the sinks

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go active house I really thought almost

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all my life that everyone in the house

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had similar things going on I lived in

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the house with my two younger brothers

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and my mom and stepdad nothing was ever

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said about the hat man or the man in

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black hmm until my mom was diagnosed

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with MS oh that's horrible and thought

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she was going crazy because she could

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see these guys and then it all came out

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at our family meeting that all of us saw

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them and that wasn't until I was 22

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years old holy cannoli that's supper how

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long does a long time to to be in the

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dark so anyways where were you all right

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when I was weren't hold on when I was 26

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years old and Mary my husband I bought a

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house and they're here I was introduced

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to the not so nice and comforting that's

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a nice and comforting I don't know what

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that means but not so nice and

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comforting um okay at first glance and

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walking to the house I didn't feel

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anything that made me feel unsafe but

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the longer I lived here the more the

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ghosts shadows blackness and entities

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that talked made their appearance and it

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first son when I was 29 years old and

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when he was little he would talk about

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the lady who like to sit in the chair in

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his room at night okay he also told me

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about the men that would stand in the

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hallway and just stare at him he said

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that I needed to make that bad man leave

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and so I consulted friend of mine who's

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a medium to come to the house and tell

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me what I was dealing with she said they

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were so much going on here that it was

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hard to pinpoint what was visiting and

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what was part of the house what what was

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visiting and what was part of the house

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oh and that's your kitchen floor and

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here's your kitchen cabinet oh there

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goes a little ghost and we're going to

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skip on over here to the foyer oh okay

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um that that's that's that's hilarious

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okay um Oh hold on Oh hold on hold on

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here did you juju juju juju juju oh this

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is this is this is weird okay hold on

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okay I ended up saying out loud to these

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beings that they could show themselves

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to me but never to my child and after

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kidding my that clear my son didn't see

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much of them again but I did I saw them

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I heard them I felt them I wanted to

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know what was in my house and of course

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as you well know nothing says the same

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nothing stays the same okay I think you

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meant stays the same it either elevates

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or it fades away I had my second son

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when I was 34 and by then I had a pretty

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good handle on what was lurking in my

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house is the big email everybody i

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thought this little one but it's just

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going on and on but that's okay my

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husband started changing from a loving

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man to a raging alcoholic and the

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elevation of seeing and hearing dark

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entities started again black mist in the

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stairways and hallways black shadows in

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the corners of the ceilings creepers the

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ones that stand behind you and talk in

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your ear yeah the hat man came back but

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this time he was not comforting go

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figure he was evil no I just I've never

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heard of such thing on when my youngest

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son was two years old he said that he

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had his brother and I were the light huh

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what and we were the light I like that

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and the dark bad men were demons I asked

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how he knew this and he said the angels

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who visit me at night told him this I am

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an open-minded person so i had no reason

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to doubt him even at his young age I

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decided that it was time to try to get

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rid of all this darkness that was

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plaguing my house and everything around

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me so I called my medium friend and she

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brought two others along with her and a

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pastor they blessed my house and the

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land unsalted everything and we prayed

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and guess what the dark ones are still

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here I'm not surprised um it have been

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quiet and not so much chaotic but

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they're still here over the years I

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believe that there is an ongoing war

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between the darkness and light in two

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different dimensions and my house just

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happens to be the middle of it it's only

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way I could make sense of it thank you

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for taking the time to read my story

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actually feel better just kidding it out

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LOL i know i'm not alone in the freaky

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deaky seeing of otherworldly things but

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it sure is nice to share it with someone

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else who under

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stanced blessed be Melissa Melissa hey

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girlfriend how's it going girl um you

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know it's interesting that what you're

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what you're sharing here in regards to

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you know you have experienced some odd

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things since you're a kid and it didn't

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spook you out as much in the beginning

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and then it did later on and you know

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sometimes I mean I do find that and when

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somebody is a kid that they don't always

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get terrified not always i mean but i

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think you know even adults a lot of them

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don't get absolutely terrified but it

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does happen but in your case what's

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interesting to me and and i guess this

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is more of a pattern that i see when it

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comes to those who don't get freaked out

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is um the kid the the you know it is the

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light like you're saying your child said

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oh you're the light and the darkness is

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this is the demons they're trying to

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stomp out your light so they didn't want

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to freak you out in and have you go

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running to mommy and daddy down the

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hallway you know like this thing is

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horrible you know instead it gave you

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that comforting feeling like I'm okay

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look look I have a nice suit on how are

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you doing I'm gonna just creep up your

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stairs and I don't don't bother I mean

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I'm good you're good we're all good so I

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mean so yeah it's like your defenses are

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down when you're not as afraid I you

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know fear is a way of surviving and you

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didn't fill in danger I'm gonna fill out

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risk but it obviously watched you all

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these years you think that your house is

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the thing that's at the crossroads

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between the battle of good and evil but

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I think it's you I think if you picked

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up and walked away from that house I

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think that you would still have these

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issues going on so I don't think that it

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would be a I don't think it make any

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difference so anyways I I think what is

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important to know here is that yeah this

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thing obviously it's it's like here hey

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let's do this okay I want to sing like

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Janet Jackson song that's the way love

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goes like a

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lock to the fire burned by the flame you

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know you can't you have two equivalent

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it to equal it to being a bud coming to

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a light that's I mean it's attracted to

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you it really is I mean it it likes what

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it sees and it wants to stomp it out so

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I don't know if it once it puts its

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dirty fly guts and block out the light

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all on you but sometimes I have to

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wonder because they do they do that they

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do that sort of thing I don't know what

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it is don't know what it is really don't

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but they do um but you know why I said I

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wasn't surprised when like yeah this

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whole this whole team of people that

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came into your place to bless your house

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and and the pastor and they did their

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holy shenanigans and I shouldn't call a

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shenanigan that they there there did

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their thing okay they tried they tried

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to help that's awesome you know but I am

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NOT surprised that it did not work for

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you because often times when uh somebody

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comes in to stand up for your faith I

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mean it's not gonna work no because it's

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kind of your responsibility I hate to

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say because it is so um I think that

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it's important to know you do not have

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to put up with it just because well gosh

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I had like five people in here blessing

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this house and it did not work you've

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got to you know get your holy ethers in

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an uproar and you bless that house you

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know are there such things as Holy

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ethers I don't know I was at a

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multitasking everybody so don't mind me

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I'm like so I'm a little scatterbrained

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here boot okay all right so yeah so I

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would say you know whatever faith will

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hell these you had a pastor in there so

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I assume that you're Christian you know

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go through your home and bless it and

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you know we could follow what they did

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or you could do something all on your

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own it's all up to you and just take to

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it it's interesting that you know gosh

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that man and all those other little

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demonic little creatures have been

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working a heck of a long time on you

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that is something else that is that is a

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that tells me you're real bright light

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real bright light the air so trying

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beat their bat wings to cover you up uh

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that's that's just something else take

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it as a compliment I always do um but

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I'm a little weirder than the next

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person so be disturbed get angry and you

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know tell them told me to get take a

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hike that you're you're done you're not

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gonna deal with this crapola anymore

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because you don't have to play in a

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simple I think it's finest up well I

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don't know but that that's how I feel

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about it anyways so do that and let me

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have a look here I'm gonna grab another

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one I'm grabbing a random email here

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everybody all right here we go 2 2 2 20

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this is a oh boy that's huh ok this is

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really deep those deep I don't know I

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don't know this one's let's hold on good

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point no okay alright well we'll do this

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all right this is this something

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different because I could just tell from

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the the title of this one that this

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one's gonna be a big doozy all right

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this is your Heidi and hold on hold on

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spark up hold on I tell you never

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multitask when your brain has tried from

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bronchitis or just fried in general okay

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all right is your head you have some

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scary things happening to me for a while

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now sob some back history is my brother

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killed himself I had open-heart surgery

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and died they brought me back ever since

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then things have been going on even

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before then I can remember as a child

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seeing things well what happened to me

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is I always was trying to fall asleep

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then I had this feeling of being watched

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so I'd opened my eyes and there was a

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dark mass floating above me while I was

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lying in my bed I was filled with fear I

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have never been so scared in my life I

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tried to shout out I try to get up and

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run I tried to move and I couldn't I was

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yelling please please please wake me up

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wake me up the mask came closer and

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closer to me and it was my brother he

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looked at me then got right in my face

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and turned into this nasty scary mean

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old woman maybe even a witch she was

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just so

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Oh scary and she was mocking me saying

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wake up wake up and laughing okay

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anybody else got chills then she was

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trying to suck the breath out of me I

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thought she was trying to kill me I

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thought I was dying well I finally woke

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up screaming and crying scared so I

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walked to my kitchen to get some water I

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grabbed a cup go to the sink then all of

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a sudden I'm back in my bed sleeping so

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I woke myself up again scared wondering

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what was going on go to the kitchen and

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then again I'm back in my bed has

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happened a few more times okay Ida tired

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by then then the last time I went to

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walk in the kitchen and there was this

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black mass again I was so scared I tried

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to run then I woke up in my bed again ok

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when I woke up for real I turned to my

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boyfriend and asked him if I was really

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awake or if I was just still dreaming I

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was crying and scared he told me I was

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just it was all just a bad dream and to

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go back to bed so a few months pass

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without it happening then one night I go

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to bed try to get some sleep and all of

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a sudden I hear it again then this

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happens I hear like I don't know how to

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explain the sound womp womp womp womp

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louder and louder I knew it was coming I

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couldn't move scream yell nothing for my

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boyfriend awake me i look at the door

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and there were three black masses

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standing there shadows they jump on me

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and tried to drag me down into the bed

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like make me sink so it's so hard to

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breathe it feels like they are trying to

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take me to hell to kill me and take my

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soul oh my gosh I'm lashing and trying

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to fight back and screaming for help but

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no one can hear me I can feel myself lay

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there and try to even mumble so my

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boyfriend can wake me up but when I

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finally can move I asked him why didn't

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he wake me he says he didn't know I

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didn't move and that he knows because he

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was sleeping these things happen more

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now and these shadows are trying to take

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me I don't know where they are trying to

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take me but I know that someday they

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will kill me and take my soul I wish I

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knew how to make them go away it's so

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scary sometimes I can't even sleep there

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are so many things that they do to me I

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can't move or even fight them off thanks

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Jen whoo oh my goodness you know I saw

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this title and saying you know this was

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a shadow people old woman and hello

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everybody I know you think an old hag

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syndrome right what is the old hag

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syndrome that is where this ratchet and

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wretched old lady um does exactly what

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Jen describes here just if people feel

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like this little nasty creepy thing and

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you know I I've heard she's really short

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like she's got almost stubby legs all

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right she doesn't describe that as being

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the case here but but I've heard that

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she's got almost like stump she's

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wandering around on and and and just

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very sinister like like a horror movies

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of witches that you could ever imagine

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rolled up into a nasty little disgusting

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grey skinned little woman and that is

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trying to kill you and like has the

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wicked witch laughs and everything you

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know I wonder if like the demons the

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powers that be are like oh boy those

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humans they have created the perfect

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creature for us to truly develop here we

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have an opportunity to take advantage of

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let's make a really really nasty old egg

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that comes to you at night and and

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threatens to throw you into a pot and

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eat you or something like Hansel and

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Gretel I mean truly I mean this this

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thing is just like that it's nasty I

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mean it's just a nasty thing and

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everything that I've heard in regards to

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her is just it's it's nothing cute it's

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nothing sweet to nothing like Wizard of

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Oz cute or which he cute me no those are

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that's a cute witch yeah i mean it's

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it's just really bizarre so and the

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thing is that that's uh

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also very concerning when I hear these

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reports of her is the the the how can I

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say the conversation it's like the the

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interaction that's it the interaction is

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so immediate like like she was mocking

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her way good wake up haha you know it's

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like she takes a special pleasure in

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knowing that you feel helpless and

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mocking I mean wow I mean she knows that

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you're struggling and she tends to laugh

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I mean I have heard this quite a bit so

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wow you know hat men and could get a

510
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good chuckle in every once in a while to

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tip his hat and like you got me um Wow a

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wicked witch laughs I mean good lord I

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mean what what we're thinking you can

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you throw at a person unless you want to

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throw in a clown i mean really hate

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clowns um so I I don't know I mean it's

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just a it's just really bizarre right

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now I'm thinking that that's really

519
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concerning to though you're talking

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about this horrible horrible horrible

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feeling and knowing that this thing is

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going to get you one day and drag you to

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hell and take your soul Jen I mean I

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just I i I'm when something gets this

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close to a person I am really concerned

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because it's physically draining you and

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it's messing with your sense of time and

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honestly you know you had a near-death

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experience and for some reason those who

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have had these close calls with death

531
00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:32,830
come back with some people call them

532
00:24:36,780 --> 00:24:34,809
gifts other people go to hell with that

533
00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:36,790
that's a curse who wants to see these

534
00:24:40,620 --> 00:24:38,590
things i want to do with this stuff you

535
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:40,630
know up so it's just it's stuff that

536
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:44,410
happens to people and um it's it it's

537
00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:47,049
it's difficult and you know a lot of

538
00:24:50,669 --> 00:24:48,790
people believe it or not who have had a

539
00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:50,679
near-death experience deal with

540
00:24:54,990 --> 00:24:53,260
depression sounds strange you know you

541
00:24:58,260 --> 00:24:55,000
think oh I got a new lease on life but

542
00:25:00,120 --> 00:24:58,270
I'm life but some people feel like wow

543
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:00,130
nobody wants me not even heaven heaven

544
00:25:04,190 --> 00:25:01,570
sent me back

545
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:04,200
thats thats could be a really crazy

546
00:25:10,530 --> 00:25:08,350
feeling in a sense um but I'd never

547
00:25:13,050 --> 00:25:10,540
thought of that way but I have heard

548
00:25:15,060 --> 00:25:13,060
more and more people talk about that and

549
00:25:19,410 --> 00:25:15,070
now i have personally seen the other

550
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:19,420
side and I think the sense that hit me

551
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,330
the most was oh I miss it I can't wait

552
00:25:26,850 --> 00:25:24,640
to get back there so that's the type of

553
00:25:28,890 --> 00:25:26,860
sense that i got like I was just so

554
00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:28,900
beautiful and this place sucks in

555
00:25:32,820 --> 00:25:30,670
comparison but I surely didn't feel

556
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:32,830
rejected I felt like gosh I have a lot

557
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:35,170
to do yet so I don't know if you came

558
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:36,130
back with a little bit of depression

559
00:25:41,370 --> 00:25:39,010
that made you open vulnerable to these

560
00:25:44,970 --> 00:25:41,380
dark things or your lights shone so

561
00:25:47,550 --> 00:25:44,980
freakin bright play through old hag at

562
00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:47,560
you oh she's easy to hurl she's tiny

563
00:25:57,690 --> 00:25:55,630
I've heard um oh boy um so I I mean

564
00:26:02,190 --> 00:25:57,700
honestly I understand this is a horrible

565
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:02,200
thing I I think what you need to do okay

566
00:26:06,290 --> 00:26:04,000
I know what you need to do to get rid of

567
00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:06,300
this rotten lowdown good-for-nothing

568
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:09,700
negativity in the form of any nasty

569
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:12,640
little witch or big ol tall hat man or

570
00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:16,450
whatever it is is you know I have to

571
00:26:20,190 --> 00:26:18,550
call it your ethereal foot you need to

572
00:26:24,150 --> 00:26:20,200
put it in their backside I don't know

573
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:24,160
one size fits all usually um a punch it

574
00:26:30,450 --> 00:26:27,010
I don't know it but as long as faith has

575
00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:30,460
written all over it it'll work so clean

576
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:33,340
out your house they say to a house

577
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:35,530
cleansing um unless you're Native

578
00:26:40,410 --> 00:26:38,110
American I don't smudge this stuff

579
00:26:42,150 --> 00:26:40,420
called water works great that's what

580
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:42,160
they use in the church I'm Christian

581
00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:45,910
what I use but I have heard some people

582
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:47,980
have been successful with that but bless

583
00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:52,690
your home bless your home and I'll you

584
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:54,190
know I'm gonna write you also in

585
00:26:59,220 --> 00:26:55,840
particular hug you can get some of that

586
00:27:00,720 --> 00:26:59,230
done in a good timely fashion you know

587
00:27:02,730 --> 00:27:00,730
it doesn't take long to bless your home

588
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:02,740
and if you want to get some sleep and

589
00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:05,050
and have some peace and quiet I mean

590
00:27:10,530 --> 00:27:07,540
honestly I don't I would have never ever

591
00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:10,540
been able to sleep ever again with some

592
00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:11,830
of the things that I have dealt with I

593
00:27:15,810 --> 00:27:14,380
can't even tell you the things that just

594
00:27:18,060 --> 00:27:15,820
love to come when your guard is down

595
00:27:21,210 --> 00:27:18,070
when you're really trying to you know

596
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:21,220
recharge your soul what a thought it

597
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:22,690
recharge your soul why did why do we

598
00:27:27,570 --> 00:27:25,030
need sleep you know I'm sure our bodies

599
00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:27,580
get tired but I mean it's like a reboot

600
00:27:31,890 --> 00:27:30,160
like your soul needs to go and be

601
00:27:33,660 --> 00:27:31,900
someplace else for a little bit too and

602
00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:33,670
come right back and you know these

603
00:27:40,530 --> 00:27:36,670
things are trying to interject with just

604
00:27:43,470 --> 00:27:40,540
sucky so um we're not going to let that

605
00:27:44,970 --> 00:27:43,480
happen anymore so i suggest to bless

606
00:27:47,010 --> 00:27:44,980
your house do it yourself don't have a

607
00:27:50,370 --> 00:27:47,020
whole army of people come over there to

608
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:50,380
do it either those who live with you can

609
00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:52,510
join in that makes it more powerful

610
00:27:56,460 --> 00:27:54,190
because then everybody's responsible for

611
00:27:58,830 --> 00:27:56,470
you know make sure the house is safe so

612
00:28:00,780 --> 00:27:58,840
a lot of people just I don't know then a

613
00:28:02,250 --> 00:28:00,790
lot of people try to pawn it off to the

614
00:28:05,910 --> 00:28:02,260
next person sometimes with these

615
00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:05,920
blessings it was just interesting to me

616
00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:07,870
everybody could be experiencing like a

617
00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:09,820
haunting or something dark going on and

618
00:28:13,380 --> 00:28:11,320
it's like well you need to bless your

619
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:13,390
home loan I'm gonna do it here i'll pass

620
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:16,810
it on to the wife it's like hold on the

621
00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:18,970
wife is going to be probably a little

622
00:28:23,010 --> 00:28:21,550
bit more protected than you are you know

623
00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:23,020
kids of course you know under the

624
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:25,300
protection of a parent that's that's

625
00:28:30,030 --> 00:28:28,240
cool but when you're like an equal adult

626
00:28:32,850 --> 00:28:30,040
in the house and you're passing the buck

627
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:32,860
to be like she take care of this no put

628
00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:35,200
your blessings both together in combo to

629
00:28:41,550 --> 00:28:38,830
cover the household what a thought put

630
00:28:44,550 --> 00:28:41,560
it together and do that so and i'm going

631
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:44,560
to write you also here jenn and try to

632
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:46,000
give you some more tips in regards to

633
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:47,530
that so anyways i hope that was helpful

634
00:28:53,220 --> 00:28:51,250
to you guys and my goodness i swear

635
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:53,230
there's there's so many emails I have

636
00:28:56,850 --> 00:28:54,880
such a backlog I have to get through

637
00:28:59,550 --> 00:28:56,860
everybody's been writing it's been fun

638
00:29:00,930 --> 00:28:59,560
and I really appreciate it so everybody

639
00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:00,940
anybody that's been dealing with

640
00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:03,280
anything out of the ordinary and night

641
00:29:07,410 --> 00:29:05,620
terror sleep paralysis I'm working on a

642
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:07,420
project we're trying to get to come to

643
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:10,030
life here write me at dusk Outlander @

644
00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:12,880
gmail.com and we're going to we're going

645
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,380
to have a really interesting guest this

646
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:16,080
evening we're going to have mary joyce

647
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:21,130
join us so you guys keep on listing your

648
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:22,480
listen to me heidi hollis at the

649
00:29:26,390 --> 00:29:24,370
Outlander an inception radio network and

650
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,400
we'll be right back welcome back

651
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:27,840
but you're listening to me heidi hollis

652
00:29:31,790 --> 00:29:30,210
the outlander remembering always if it's

653
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:31,800
weird we're here and we're giving you

654
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:34,260
advice and insight on outlandish topics

655
00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:35,970
phone lines are always open but I do

656
00:29:41,210 --> 00:29:38,460
realize that most of you guys listen to

657
00:29:43,550 --> 00:29:41,220
us through the app which is cool so it's

658
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:43,560
fine i understand i hit you know on fan

659
00:29:49,790 --> 00:29:47,370
so i wanted to introduce you guys to my

660
00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:49,800
fantastic guess before the evening Mary

661
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:52,160
a Joyce who has worked for two major

662
00:29:58,220 --> 00:29:55,050
metropolitan area newspapers as a writer

663
00:30:00,530 --> 00:29:58,230
columnist artists Sunday magazine editor

664
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:00,540
and feature editor on the side she's

665
00:30:05,330 --> 00:30:02,490
written magazine articles and five other

666
00:30:07,610 --> 00:30:05,340
books currently she is editor of the

667
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:07,620
Skyships over cashiers website which

668
00:30:12,190 --> 00:30:10,410
features cutting-edge topics her career

669
00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:12,200
includes working for a fortune 100

670
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:14,520
company coordinating art and printing

671
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:16,890
for talking children's books and that

672
00:30:20,390 --> 00:30:18,450
capacity should work directly with many

673
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:20,400
creative teams including those at Marvel

674
00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:24,330
Comics hello golden books mr. Rogers who

675
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:26,300
doesn't love mr. Rodd berenstein bears

676
00:30:32,150 --> 00:30:30,330
steven spielberg's et book staff she's

677
00:30:33,860 --> 00:30:32,160
also worked for the world's largest

678
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:33,870
printing company a major metropolitan

679
00:30:39,410 --> 00:30:36,930
airport all agency a community college

680
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:39,420
and political campaigns everybody round

681
00:30:47,150 --> 00:30:44,010
of applause for Mary a Joyce there are

682
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:47,160
going mental Mary I cannot believe I'm

683
00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:49,080
talking to you you have quite the

684
00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:52,440
background thank you that was a nice

685
00:30:57,710 --> 00:30:55,020
introduction I appreciate it yeah my god

686
00:30:59,570 --> 00:30:57,720
I'm just tickled I mean I was just

687
00:31:01,070 --> 00:30:59,580
saying just for me came on here I'm like

688
00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:01,080
you know I've got the background and

689
00:31:06,020 --> 00:31:03,240
cartooning all I ever wanted to do

690
00:31:07,940 --> 00:31:06,030
growing up was be a comic strip artist

691
00:31:10,670 --> 00:31:07,950
that that was my whole goal in life and

692
00:31:14,030 --> 00:31:10,680
I got to do it for 12 college newspapers

693
00:31:15,770 --> 00:31:14,040
and while i was in college i had an

694
00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:15,780
opportunity to get syndicated let's put

695
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:19,020
it that way and I I made the cut was

696
00:31:23,660 --> 00:31:21,120
going to happen distributors failed me I

697
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:23,670
was in college I had I was going to be

698
00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:25,530
an occupational therapist which I am now

699
00:31:30,530 --> 00:31:28,500
and I was just so busy wouldn't you know

700
00:31:32,180 --> 00:31:30,540
things fell through and somehow i wrote

701
00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:32,190
my first book in college and just stayed

702
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:34,260
writing and gave up my cartooning and

703
00:31:39,380 --> 00:31:35,760
now i'm back to it and now i'm going

704
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:39,390
like mental with it i love visual arts

705
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:40,020
so

706
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:42,210
I'm just floored and of course i love

707
00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:44,910
the he own language the communication

708
00:31:49,730 --> 00:31:47,670
stuff do so your background my goodness

709
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:49,740
how does a person do all that you've

710
00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:54,330
done that takes a bunch of years you

711
00:31:59,030 --> 00:31:56,520
pile him up since you're interested in

712
00:32:01,310 --> 00:31:59,040
cartooning when i worked at the orlando

713
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:01,320
sentinel i worked in the car tuning

714
00:32:07,340 --> 00:32:03,570
department and the one name that you

715
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:07,350
would probably know would be Wagner who

716
00:32:12,770 --> 00:32:09,120
took over grin and Barrett which is one

717
00:32:14,510 --> 00:32:12,780
of the old classic ones and he had to

718
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:14,520
learn the style of the original

719
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:17,580
cartoonist in order to continue that

720
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:21,120
that strip and being with cartoonist on

721
00:32:24,530 --> 00:32:22,530
a regular basis was kind of fun because

722
00:32:27,950 --> 00:32:24,540
their humor was always just a little bit

723
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:27,960
quirky oh gosh yes yes I mean it you

724
00:32:33,170 --> 00:32:30,450
have to look at the world through such a

725
00:32:35,030 --> 00:32:33,180
different I know colored glass it's it

726
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:35,040
but I i mean i don't know i guess i

727
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,720
think in cartoons that's just how i live

728
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:38,640
and will combine combine the right

729
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:40,290
combine the riding with the cartoons

730
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:42,330
that's a great idea i have actually done

731
00:32:47,330 --> 00:32:44,610
that already i have a couple of books

732
00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:47,340
i'm trying to get out there huh very

733
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:49,380
good on the topic of faith that they're

734
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:51,330
both called the other F word one of them

735
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:54,330
is out for the kids but self-published

736
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:56,310
it because you know something about

737
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,320
writing about the paranormal and then

738
00:33:03,860 --> 00:33:00,720
trying to reach into a genre of

739
00:33:05,870 --> 00:33:03,870
something like faith God and if you

740
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:05,880
don't speak from a pulpit these

741
00:33:09,410 --> 00:33:08,310
publishers really shun you so I'm like

742
00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:09,420
you know what I'm gonna put this out

743
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:10,980
there and I'm just going to do it you

744
00:33:14,540 --> 00:33:12,210
know how to follow your passion right

745
00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:14,550
some of the most interesting books are

746
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:16,740
being self published today and there's

747
00:33:21,410 --> 00:33:18,930
you know it's just much easier to do

748
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:21,420
than it used to be oh yeah oh yeah for

749
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:24,210
sure and you know it's it's been an

750
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:26,100
interesting journey but look I want to

751
00:33:32,030 --> 00:33:28,050
get onto your journey my goodness you

752
00:33:34,670 --> 00:33:32,040
are you cover so many different topics

753
00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:34,680
tell us what drives you to do what

754
00:33:41,180 --> 00:33:37,350
you're doing today right now simple

755
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:41,190
curiosity with the newspaper background

756
00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:42,810
I always like to dig into things and

757
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:44,390
find out where the truth is and

758
00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:47,310
curiosity always gets me started so

759
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:50,100
that's in a real simple answer you know

760
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:52,290
I a lot of people know that's cool

761
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:53,850
that's very cool a lot

762
00:33:57,740 --> 00:33:56,370
people come from you know why experience

763
00:34:00,350 --> 00:33:57,750
something out of the ordinary did you

764
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:00,360
did you have something that sparked your

765
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:01,530
interest from a personal perspective

766
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:05,130
like that mmm you're talking about

767
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:06,330
something like dropping out of the

768
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:10,770
clouds ah not not really i'd seen UFOs

769
00:34:15,889 --> 00:34:13,740
from a distance but nothing as dramatic

770
00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:15,899
as people who've seen them land right in

771
00:34:20,899 --> 00:34:19,379
front of them but it's interesting to

772
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:20,909
talk to the people who had those kind of

773
00:34:25,490 --> 00:34:23,040
experiences and as a writer as a

774
00:34:26,930 --> 00:34:25,500
journalist current you don't always want

775
00:34:29,930 --> 00:34:26,940
to be talking about yourself you'd

776
00:34:32,810 --> 00:34:29,940
rather be asking the questions and

777
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:32,820
getting other people's stories out right

778
00:34:38,419 --> 00:34:37,050
right yeah okay so what's fascinating to

779
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:38,429
me it's like I don't know it's like you

780
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:41,460
have like such polar opposite seeming

781
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:44,010
topics with the you know the underground

782
00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:47,010
bases and the Cherokee little people so

783
00:34:53,540 --> 00:34:49,230
I'm like it weird it worded where to

784
00:34:56,659 --> 00:34:53,550
dive where to die what well we can start

785
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:56,669
with the website since 2008 I've been

786
00:35:02,030 --> 00:34:59,010
the editor of Sky ships over cashiers

787
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:02,040
calm it started out because we had so

788
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,050
many and still continue to have so many

789
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:06,720
UFO sightings in and around cashiers

790
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,700
North Carolina now where I'm located

791
00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:11,040
right now is in the mountains of western

792
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:15,000
north carolina and cashiers is a town at

793
00:35:18,859 --> 00:35:17,490
the top of one of these mountains it's

794
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:18,869
one of those places where the

795
00:35:24,050 --> 00:35:20,609
Flatlanders come in when the weather

796
00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:24,060
gets too hot and a beautiful place lots

797
00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:26,040
of waterfalls lots of lots of scenery

798
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:30,180
and lots of mysterious activity variant

799
00:35:36,410 --> 00:35:32,850
but because of that website people began

800
00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:36,420
to contact me and eventually

801
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:39,630
whistleblowers began to reach out to us

802
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:41,310
at the website because they had

803
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:44,640
information they felt people had a right

804
00:35:49,220 --> 00:35:47,520
to know and needed to know and we had

805
00:35:52,010 --> 00:35:49,230
apparently proved ourselves to be

806
00:35:55,460 --> 00:35:52,020
credible so they chose to open up with

807
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:55,470
us and we've done our best to protect

808
00:35:59,900 --> 00:35:57,930
them and the best we can do to present

809
00:36:02,359 --> 00:35:59,910
what they think the world needs to know

810
00:36:05,540 --> 00:36:02,369
about so that's how I began to learn

811
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:05,550
about let's say the underground bases I

812
00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:08,760
I'm where we are right here there are

813
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:11,430
five that we have learned about and

814
00:36:17,150 --> 00:36:14,450
they're all under major tourist

815
00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:17,160
attractions there's one under the Smoky

816
00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:19,500
Mountains National Park one under mount

817
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:21,660
mitchell which is the tallest mountain

818
00:36:27,740 --> 00:36:24,150
east of the Mississippi one in the

819
00:36:31,070 --> 00:36:27,750
linville gorge one on the Blue Ridge

820
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:31,080
Parkway near Devils courthouse which is

821
00:36:38,570 --> 00:36:35,850
a well-known rock formation and one near

822
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:38,580
our underneath Sugarloaf Mountain which

823
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:40,770
is near chimney rock state park so I

824
00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:42,810
find it very interesting that every

825
00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:45,960
single one of those is close to some

826
00:36:51,350 --> 00:36:48,660
kind of a park of some sort or a tourist

827
00:36:54,020 --> 00:36:51,360
attraction huh and and they're all under

828
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:54,030
mountains uh yeah everything here is

829
00:36:59,660 --> 00:36:57,690
mountains yeah but I mean I don't know I

830
00:37:02,000 --> 00:36:59,670
mean that it I was talking to you

831
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:02,010
briefly I'd had a couple of run-ins with

832
00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:04,650
underground bases and I'll get into that

833
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:07,260
a little bit later but one of them was

834
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:09,240
under a mountain as well so it's just

835
00:37:15,860 --> 00:37:12,030
that I know for sure the the first one

836
00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:15,870
I'm not so certain but what do you think

837
00:37:19,850 --> 00:37:18,180
okay so that the people came forward and

838
00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:19,860
they felt like it was important that

839
00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:22,200
they they needed to reach out so so

840
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:24,390
somebody new so what were some of the

841
00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:26,370
first things that people were expressing

842
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:29,580
concern about that reached out of the

843
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:31,800
five places that we have learned about

844
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:34,050
the one that I find the most concerning

845
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:38,610
is near the devil's courthouse off the

846
00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:41,490
Blue Ridge Parkway but beneath that into

847
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:45,240
the west of that is a place called the

848
00:37:52,210 --> 00:37:49,770
Perry center it's an acronym that stands

849
00:37:54,770 --> 00:37:52,220
for the Pisgah astronomical research

850
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:54,780
institute so it's just known as Perry

851
00:38:02,240 --> 00:37:58,770
and during the Cold War it was a

852
00:38:04,610 --> 00:38:02,250
satellite monitoring station after the

853
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:04,620
Cold War they supposedly closed it down

854
00:38:12,350 --> 00:38:09,810
and today again supposedly it is an

855
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:12,360
astronomical research place where

856
00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:16,770
students can come and but everything

857
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:19,150
that we've learned that's just a cover

858
00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:21,610
and one of our most credible witnesses

859
00:38:27,930 --> 00:38:25,390
who has high security clearance in fact

860
00:38:30,450 --> 00:38:27,940
to that have the high-security

861
00:38:33,450 --> 00:38:30,460
backgrounds have said that that is a

862
00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:33,460
city-sized facility that six stories

863
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:36,580
deep it's totally self-sufficient with

864
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:38,290
you know water and electricity and

865
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:41,650
everything that you need and the reason

866
00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:44,530
I say it's it's one that concerns me the

867
00:38:50,430 --> 00:38:47,470
most is that the first witness who told

868
00:38:52,620 --> 00:38:50,440
us about the place talked about they had

869
00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:52,630
the power there to erase human memories

870
00:38:59,580 --> 00:38:55,720
that human experiments were going on

871
00:39:03,450 --> 00:38:59,590
there I find those kind of things rather

872
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:03,460
unsettling one of the the men told me

873
00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:05,290
that when he was a young man he worked

874
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:08,470
for a brief time at a Christmas tree

875
00:39:14,010 --> 00:39:11,110
farm not far from this facility and that

876
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:14,020
people there had seen animals in cages

877
00:39:19,050 --> 00:39:16,750
being taken into this facility which

878
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,060
gives support to the idea that you know

879
00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:21,280
experimentation may indeed be going on

880
00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:24,940
and then one day when at a place where I

881
00:39:31,290 --> 00:39:27,660
was working at the time there was a

882
00:39:34,770 --> 00:39:31,300
Rubicon Jeep that came up and parked

883
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:34,780
real close to my front door and it had

884
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:37,570
tags for I don't have the right words

885
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:38,970
right now but it was the psychological

886
00:39:47,340 --> 00:39:45,130
division out of Colorado and it you know

887
00:39:50,730 --> 00:39:47,350
it's not easy to get to Perry and yet I

888
00:39:53,370 --> 00:39:50,740
saw it take off in that direction so all

889
00:39:55,470 --> 00:39:53,380
the pieces begin to fall together and

890
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:55,480
you have to wonder you know exactly

891
00:40:03,510 --> 00:39:58,330
what's going on there plus we see a lot

892
00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:03,520
of UFOs around that facility okay and do

893
00:40:09,690 --> 00:40:06,220
you think those UFOs are more related to

894
00:40:13,170 --> 00:40:09,700
alien or our own crafts in this area I

895
00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:13,180
think we have both but many of us are

896
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:16,270
very suspicious that there is a working

897
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:20,050
relationship with some aspect of our

898
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:23,260
military and some aspect of the et world

899
00:40:28,830 --> 00:40:27,010
I suspect that the ones involved are not

900
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:28,840
necessarily the ones you want to team up

901
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,450
with

902
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:32,640
and that seems to be a common theme for

903
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:35,490
some reason a lot of people think you

904
00:40:38,210 --> 00:40:36,930
know if they come from outer space I

905
00:40:39,859 --> 00:40:38,220
mean they must have you no good

906
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:39,869
intentions because they're smarter than

907
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:41,730
us I'm like we we had the good the bad

908
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:43,650
and the ugly on up there and down here

909
00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:46,050
to thank you yes that's how I feel

910
00:40:51,609 --> 00:40:48,390
honestly because uh my gosh I not

911
00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:51,619
everybody is made of sugar and spice um

912
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,320
that's for sure but it's so okay so the

913
00:40:59,410 --> 00:40:57,359
people of that we're coming forward

914
00:41:02,060 --> 00:40:59,420
they're saying experimentations going on

915
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:02,070
but at the purpose okay so they're

916
00:41:06,170 --> 00:41:04,170
wiping memories what are they what's the

917
00:41:08,930 --> 00:41:06,180
purpose of wanting to wipe the memory of

918
00:41:12,290 --> 00:41:08,940
a human being what what seems to be the

919
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:12,300
goal of the actions going on underground

920
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:15,210
there now I can tell you what people

921
00:41:19,130 --> 00:41:16,890
have observed you know around these

922
00:41:21,319 --> 00:41:19,140
places I cannot get into these people's

923
00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:21,329
heads I don't know for certain what

924
00:41:27,859 --> 00:41:24,630
they're doing one of the former Air

925
00:41:30,829 --> 00:41:27,869
Force officers who was also curious

926
00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:30,839
about this place was keeping tabs on it

927
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:33,420
for at least a while and he said you

928
00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:36,000
know sometimes you can you know drive

929
00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:38,670
right into this facility he said at

930
00:41:46,329 --> 00:41:43,560
another time or two he has seen guards

931
00:41:49,099 --> 00:41:46,339
in swat type outfits at the gate

932
00:41:52,609 --> 00:41:49,109
sometimes you can get into Perry very

933
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:52,619
easily sometimes you can't it seems to

934
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:55,710
be more like by invitation or on certain

935
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:00,839
days ah that's interesting so okay have

936
00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:04,800
any of the people actually seen other

937
00:42:14,780 --> 00:42:12,060
beings I'm trying to think of the people

938
00:42:16,660 --> 00:42:14,790
that I've talked to the closest I would

939
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:16,670
have would people who've seen

940
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:19,530
apparitions which may very well have

941
00:42:26,089 --> 00:42:24,030
been Holograms again it seems to branch

942
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,099
off into a hold total different

943
00:42:32,990 --> 00:42:28,800
direction one of the women who lives at

944
00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:33,000
the top of the mountain in cashiers was

945
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:35,700
seen lots of UFOs to the point where she

946
00:42:40,910 --> 00:42:38,609
kind of became blase about them and one

947
00:42:42,740 --> 00:42:40,920
day she was stretched out on her I think

948
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:42,750
it was her couch where she could look up

949
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:43,810
at the sky and

950
00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:46,800
saw UFO way off in the distance and

951
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:48,820
didn't think much of it and then

952
00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:50,590
suddenly there was a beam of light that

953
00:42:55,530 --> 00:42:53,260
went from that UFO all the way down and

954
00:42:58,650 --> 00:42:55,540
hit the parking area in front of her

955
00:43:00,480 --> 00:42:58,660
home and then she heard this big bang on

956
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:00,490
the side of her house and it startled

957
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:03,310
her she said it she froze for a second

958
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:06,130
and then when she turned her head she

959
00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:09,310
saw this giant hologram apparition of

960
00:43:15,450 --> 00:43:12,670
Jesus and she said it was about 35 feet

961
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:15,460
tall Wow she knew the height of it

962
00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:16,690
because she knew the height of her house

963
00:43:24,110 --> 00:43:21,460
and it lasted for about 20 minutes she

964
00:43:27,690 --> 00:43:24,120
said and she described him rather

965
00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:27,700
vividly said his hair was more of a

966
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,750
lighter tent and it flowed in she said

967
00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:34,000
it looked like fresh washed dried hair

968
00:43:40,740 --> 00:43:38,830
that just gently went in the breeze but

969
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:40,750
what I found the most interesting of her

970
00:43:47,850 --> 00:43:44,410
description was that he had a thong

971
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:47,860
necklace on or with a little pouch on it

972
00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:50,710
and in any depiction I've seen of Jesus

973
00:43:55,650 --> 00:43:53,470
I have never seen one with a pouch

974
00:43:57,450 --> 00:43:55,660
around his neck and yet they did not

975
00:43:59,790 --> 00:43:57,460
seem to be too good at pockets at that

976
00:44:03,660 --> 00:43:59,800
time and they needed money maybe that's

977
00:44:05,790 --> 00:44:03,670
the way they carried it but as far as

978
00:44:10,890 --> 00:44:05,800
seeing little grey aliens and things

979
00:44:13,830 --> 00:44:10,900
around here I've had one woman who was

980
00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:13,840
involved in one of our major Bigfoot

981
00:44:21,630 --> 00:44:16,380
stories who said she saw this little

982
00:44:25,530 --> 00:44:21,640
white alien dude but the description

983
00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:25,540
didn't quite match greys it was a little

984
00:44:32,190 --> 00:44:27,670
bit more a cross between a grey and

985
00:44:35,820 --> 00:44:32,200
maybe Casper the Friendly Ghost that's

986
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:35,830
interesting because I I know these tall

987
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:37,630
whites that you're speaking of and and

988
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:41,110
for some reason I don't know I've heard

989
00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:43,210
more positive things about those ones oh

990
00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:46,030
absolutely yeah in fact I've never heard

991
00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:49,240
anyone described as a tall as a

992
00:44:57,180 --> 00:44:53,740
pleiadian or a Nordic with the light

993
00:45:00,020 --> 00:44:57,190
features they always seem to be positive

994
00:45:02,510 --> 00:45:00,030
oh I have heard of some Nordics being

995
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:02,520
negative but like these tall white like

996
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:08,290
thin alien types I saw one once I don't

997
00:45:11,849 --> 00:45:09,849
even know I don't even know how to say

998
00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:11,859
but uh are you talking about the kind

999
00:45:18,089 --> 00:45:14,440
like I can only think of his last name

1000
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:18,099
Hall out in Nevada or are you not

1001
00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:20,050
familiar with him oh that sounds

1002
00:45:25,170 --> 00:45:22,540
familiar but I'm not it's not coming to

1003
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:25,180
the time yeah yeah I you know I I

1004
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:27,430
personally had like I've had so many odd

1005
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:30,900
experiences and I'd seen a tall white

1006
00:45:37,859 --> 00:45:35,410
alien once that was like a flash in in

1007
00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:37,869
like old robes like in the biblical

1008
00:45:42,210 --> 00:45:39,780
times that was actually preaching

1009
00:45:44,250 --> 00:45:42,220
absolutely as really bizarre I don't

1010
00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:44,260
know what to think of it but um you know

1011
00:45:50,130 --> 00:45:46,180
so that's that's fascinating about this

1012
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,140
this projection of Jesus now you've got

1013
00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:52,960
this other book tangible evidence of

1014
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Jesus left behind for us to find what is

1015
00:46:01,950 --> 00:45:59,170
your take in in you know this lady uh

1016
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:01,960
you know sharing this experience I mean

1017
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:06,910
it's kind of kind of different um first

1018
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:08,530
of all her I'll get in the book in a

1019
00:46:13,230 --> 00:46:10,510
second but I found it interesting that

1020
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:13,240
the the woman's mother raised her Jewish

1021
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:15,730
so she wasn't somebody who would be

1022
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:18,550
naturally concocting images of Jesus

1023
00:46:26,430 --> 00:46:22,329
just because you know so I found that

1024
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:26,440
that made her story more credible even

1025
00:46:32,370 --> 00:46:29,130
though I have dealt very

1026
00:46:34,109 --> 00:46:32,380
journalistically with you know two of

1027
00:46:36,270 --> 00:46:34,119
the books I've done that Cherokee little

1028
00:46:38,849 --> 00:46:36,280
people were real and the one about the

1029
00:46:42,030 --> 00:46:38,859
underground bases the Jesus book

1030
00:46:44,430 --> 00:46:42,040
happened in a very very different way it

1031
00:46:46,859 --> 00:46:44,440
was not a book I intended to write but I

1032
00:46:53,370 --> 00:46:46,869
was awakened in the early morning hours

1033
00:46:55,650 --> 00:46:53,380
in the fall of 2013 and Jesus appeared

1034
00:46:59,250 --> 00:46:55,660
and asked me to write this book and he

1035
00:47:02,430 --> 00:46:59,260
wanted it done in a month's time which

1036
00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:02,440
just made me choke but I had out of my

1037
00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:04,990
own curiosity done an awful lot of the

1038
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:07,990
research without knowing it and I just

1039
00:47:14,270 --> 00:47:10,800
basically focused totally on that

1040
00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:14,280
for a month and and and got it done and

1041
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:17,260
the purpose he said was that he said

1042
00:47:23,070 --> 00:47:19,690
people are so busy that they will not

1043
00:47:25,590 --> 00:47:23,080
take time to read you know thick books

1044
00:47:27,450 --> 00:47:25,600
and he had information he wanted more

1045
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,460
people to have and he wanted it in a

1046
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:30,160
form that was easy to digest and he

1047
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:32,530
wanted lots of images to go with it also

1048
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:35,680
so the book really has a magazine type

1049
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:39,030
style there's lots of photos

1050
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:43,330
illustrations maps so it's it's I call

1051
00:47:50,580 --> 00:47:48,850
it an adult picture book but he had

1052
00:47:53,630 --> 00:47:50,590
information he wanted out there to give

1053
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:53,640
a more complete idea of what he was like

1054
00:48:01,560 --> 00:47:57,310
that is so that so sounds like him and

1055
00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:01,570
as you know I'm you read I mentioned no

1056
00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:05,260
joke yeah I read that right after you

1057
00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:07,150
extended the invitation to be on your

1058
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:08,860
show and I was looking at books that you

1059
00:48:14,130 --> 00:48:11,170
had written and I chose that one because

1060
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:14,140
of my own experiences yeah yeah and it

1061
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:15,610
did a good job it should help a lot of

1062
00:48:21,210 --> 00:48:18,250
people would she thinks but but he's got

1063
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:21,220
a sense of humor and does its he does

1064
00:48:28,740 --> 00:48:25,150
but it's not it's not it's not a haha

1065
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:28,750
type of humor no no that's not but when

1066
00:48:33,330 --> 00:48:30,490
when the man asked you to do something

1067
00:48:36,990 --> 00:48:33,340
it's just something that's like I better

1068
00:48:39,630 --> 00:48:37,000
get this stuff that I did get it done by

1069
00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:39,640
the way it was a month to the day that I

1070
00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:43,240
got it he came to the right person well

1071
00:48:46,650 --> 00:48:44,950
the newspaper background helps because

1072
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,660
you're used to working under deadlines

1073
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:48,880
so you know you got a deadline you gotta

1074
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,890
meet it that's true but you know what

1075
00:48:56,370 --> 00:48:52,720
I'm I got goosebumps when you said it's

1076
00:48:58,590 --> 00:48:56,380
like an adult picture book I ok I i'm

1077
00:49:01,110 --> 00:48:58,600
doing a boat it's complete it's the

1078
00:49:03,090 --> 00:49:01,120
other F word it's it's a book it's an

1079
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:03,100
adult picture book that I have complete

1080
00:49:09,810 --> 00:49:06,310
sense that I cartooned and what not to

1081
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:09,820
help people get a different level to

1082
00:49:15,090 --> 00:49:11,770
their faith you know because I felt

1083
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:15,100
pushed by him hello to skip that I done

1084
00:49:20,130 --> 00:49:17,650
and I'm like okay everybody here it is

1085
00:49:21,150 --> 00:49:20,140
and you know publishers are being odd so

1086
00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:21,160
I'm like you know what I'm gonna do it

1087
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:24,400
on my own and it's he wants it up there

1088
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:24,610
I'm

1089
00:49:30,030 --> 00:49:27,760
not gonna argue with them and once you

1090
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:30,040
agree to do it it it flows very smoothly

1091
00:49:34,620 --> 00:49:32,650
oh gosh yeah it's been done for a little

1092
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:34,630
bit actually and I'm like you know what

1093
00:49:39,150 --> 00:49:36,880
I really really really just have to put

1094
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:39,160
it out and just you know do what what's

1095
00:49:42,450 --> 00:49:41,230
needed because uh so I totally I mean

1096
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:42,460
I'm just saying I could totally relate

1097
00:49:46,290 --> 00:49:44,050
so where you're coming from and I just

1098
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:46,300
love that he put that fire in you that's

1099
00:49:52,650 --> 00:49:49,810
just awesome that's great it's great to

1100
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:52,660
hear so I mean okay hold on hold on so

1101
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:56,530
in 2013 he comes in it's a strolls on in

1102
00:50:00,210 --> 00:49:58,000
it's like hey how's it going there Mary

1103
00:50:03,090 --> 00:50:00,220
I what did he look like what did he do I

1104
00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:03,100
mean what was the feeling I just love

1105
00:50:08,820 --> 00:50:07,150
hearing these stories um well I guess it

1106
00:50:10,860 --> 00:50:08,830
was the early morning hours I just

1107
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:10,870
awakened in the you know it was still

1108
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:14,650
dark out and I don't know if it wasn't

1109
00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:16,690
anything startling it was just like you

1110
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:19,030
know here he was and here's what we need

1111
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:22,480
to do and it was really that simple Wow

1112
00:50:31,010 --> 00:50:24,850
I mean did he look stereotypical to you

1113
00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:31,020
did he have flowing robes and my he is

1114
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:34,060
more light featured than than many

1115
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:37,090
people think of he has instead of

1116
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:38,710
quoting me let me quote somebody else

1117
00:50:45,020 --> 00:50:41,650
there in that book I have a letter that

1118
00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:45,030
was written by Pontius Pilate to Caesar

1119
00:50:54,060 --> 00:50:49,720
and at that time Jesus was causing quite

1120
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:54,070
a bit of attention and Caesars often a

1121
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:56,290
different part of the world and he

1122
00:51:00,090 --> 00:50:58,000
wanted to know about this person so

1123
00:51:03,210 --> 00:51:00,100
Pontius Pilate wrote this letter and it

1124
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:03,220
is in the Congressional library of

1125
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:06,640
records and he describes Jesus as being

1126
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:08,950
lighter featured than those around him

1127
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:15,760
and being very he saw him talking to a

1128
00:51:20,430 --> 00:51:18,160
group of people and described him just

1129
00:51:23,940 --> 00:51:20,440
leaning against a tree very relaxed and

1130
00:51:26,070 --> 00:51:23,950
had the audience captivated Pontius

1131
00:51:28,830 --> 00:51:26,080
Pilate left his secretary behind to

1132
00:51:32,910 --> 00:51:28,840
listen to you know the entire

1133
00:51:35,220 --> 00:51:32,920
presentation I would guess but that

1134
00:51:37,450 --> 00:51:35,230
people really liked him and Pontius

1135
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:37,460
Pilate

1136
00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:41,690
see him as an enemy of the Romans he

1137
00:51:47,859 --> 00:51:45,710
said it was the the more elite of the

1138
00:51:49,570 --> 00:51:47,869
Jewish people that had a problem with

1139
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:49,580
them because the humble Jews are the

1140
00:51:55,300 --> 00:51:52,250
regular people responded very well to

1141
00:51:58,030 --> 00:51:55,310
him but he had the lighter eyes and then

1142
00:52:02,829 --> 00:51:58,040
that same kind of description comes up

1143
00:52:05,170 --> 00:52:02,839
when you read the legends that predate

1144
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:05,180
the arrival of the white man in the

1145
00:52:10,359 --> 00:52:07,970
Western Hemisphere and the different

1146
00:52:14,140 --> 00:52:10,369
tribes who didn't have direct connection

1147
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:14,150
with each other all describe Jesus as

1148
00:52:19,089 --> 00:52:16,250
having the lighter eyes that would

1149
00:52:21,550 --> 00:52:19,099
change like the ocean and that he had

1150
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:21,560
copper tents in his hair if the Sun hit

1151
00:52:28,450 --> 00:52:25,910
it and many of the stories that are in

1152
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:28,460
the New Testament are told in a

1153
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:32,480
different form in these ancient legends

1154
00:52:38,620 --> 00:52:35,330
for example the little lost lamb becomes

1155
00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:38,630
the little loss Lama and this research

1156
00:52:47,050 --> 00:52:43,790
was done by person by the last name of

1157
00:52:48,579 --> 00:52:47,060
Taylor who spent 25 years researching

1158
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:48,589
this with the different tribes

1159
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:51,920
throughout the Western Hemisphere wow

1160
00:52:55,089 --> 00:52:53,839
that is amazing my goodness well you

1161
00:52:56,770 --> 00:52:55,099
know I want everybody to check out that

1162
00:52:58,930 --> 00:52:56,780
book because that that's one that I've

1163
00:53:00,579 --> 00:52:58,940
got to read personally I have been so

1164
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:00,589
absolutely crazy i want to read all your

1165
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:02,570
books a tangible evidence jesus left

1166
00:53:06,970 --> 00:53:04,970
behind for us to find you guys we're

1167
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:06,980
going to take our next break here your

1168
00:53:09,970 --> 00:53:08,240
listen to me how do you tell us the

1169
00:53:12,310 --> 00:53:09,980
outlander and we'll be right back

1170
00:53:14,410 --> 00:53:12,320
welcome back everybody you're listening

1171
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,420
to me heidi hollis of the outlander

1172
00:53:17,980 --> 00:53:16,400
remembering always if it's weird we're

1173
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:17,990
here and we're giving you advice and

1174
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:20,240
insight on outlandish topics phone lines

1175
00:53:26,020 --> 00:53:24,050
are always open 1 888 9 192 355 but i

1176
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:26,030
know most of you guys listen to the app

1177
00:53:31,359 --> 00:53:29,089
which is very very cool perfectly fine

1178
00:53:33,370 --> 00:53:31,369
by me it's all good um you know I've got

1179
00:53:37,420 --> 00:53:33,380
married joyce here and holy cannoli

1180
00:53:38,770 --> 00:53:37,430
she's my people way beyond anything it

1181
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,780
you can imagine the things that us girls

1182
00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:40,640
are talking about during the break you

1183
00:53:46,420 --> 00:53:42,710
would just be floored I mean that this

1184
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:46,430
is just is so very cool so mary joyce is

1185
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:49,250
talking about Jesus encounters that

1186
00:53:53,150 --> 00:53:50,160
she's had

1187
00:53:54,799 --> 00:53:53,160
talking about underground bases talking

1188
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:54,809
about how she almost became an OT like

1189
00:54:01,549 --> 00:53:59,520
myself it's just so i made my goodness

1190
00:54:02,329 --> 00:54:01,559
and talking about cherokee little people

1191
00:54:05,150 --> 00:54:02,339
that's gonna we're going to get into

1192
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:05,160
that next so your website Sky ships over

1193
00:54:10,130 --> 00:54:07,890
cashiers I want everybody calm go check

1194
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:10,140
that out and her books underground

1195
00:54:13,849 --> 00:54:11,730
military bases hidden in North Carolina

1196
00:54:17,329 --> 00:54:13,859
mountains Cherokee little people wore

1197
00:54:20,410 --> 00:54:17,339
real and tangible evidence of Jesus left

1198
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:20,420
behind for us to find I mean fantastic

1199
00:54:25,930 --> 00:54:22,640
titles there that draws your attention

1200
00:54:27,950 --> 00:54:25,940
that comes with a lot of experience oh

1201
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:27,960
excuse me all those books are available

1202
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:30,480
on Amazon and some people like to

1203
00:54:35,779 --> 00:54:32,700
support the independent bookstores and

1204
00:54:40,130 --> 00:54:35,789
if people can also get the book through

1205
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:40,140
city lights NC calm and city lights is

1206
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:42,510
the local bookstore here and they will

1207
00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:45,119
ship out any place just like Amazon will

1208
00:54:49,809 --> 00:54:47,910
so it's city lights NC calm if you want

1209
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:49,819
to support the independent bookstores

1210
00:54:56,359 --> 00:54:52,710
that sounds fantastic so my goodness

1211
00:55:00,019 --> 00:54:56,369
alright so let's tiptoe on over into the

1212
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:00,029
Cherokee little people I am wait wait

1213
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:01,890
before we do can I just add one more

1214
00:55:08,660 --> 00:55:03,930
thing because it's like a cause that I

1215
00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:08,670
have when I first moved to Western North

1216
00:55:15,950 --> 00:55:12,270
Carolina in 1998 I began to hear these

1217
00:55:19,130 --> 00:55:15,960
stories about foreign military troops in

1218
00:55:22,579 --> 00:55:19,140
the forest around here and they talked

1219
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:22,589
about Germans and Russians and United

1220
00:55:27,859 --> 00:55:25,529
Nations doing practices and the question

1221
00:55:30,980 --> 00:55:27,869
always was how can they do that how can

1222
00:55:33,319 --> 00:55:30,990
that be allowed and after one of the

1223
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:33,329
whistleblowers told me about the UN

1224
00:55:39,380 --> 00:55:35,730
having a major facility under mount

1225
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:39,390
mitchell I really began to try to get to

1226
00:55:46,190 --> 00:55:42,960
the bottom of it and there is a treaty

1227
00:55:49,279 --> 00:55:46,200
that our country signed in 1972 called

1228
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:49,289
the world heritage treaty and we turned

1229
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:51,930
over we as a country turned over the

1230
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:54,240
rights to some of our national parks and

1231
00:56:01,760 --> 00:55:58,650
forests and so it's no longer under our

1232
00:56:05,090 --> 00:56:01,770
control even though our

1233
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:05,100
axes pay for it and I think this is

1234
00:56:10,180 --> 00:56:06,930
probably something that shouldn't exist

1235
00:56:13,130 --> 00:56:10,190
i think it is a treaty that we ought to

1236
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:13,140
get out of and i just wanted to throw

1237
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:14,640
that out to people because there might

1238
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:16,770
be somebody out there who has the

1239
00:56:23,390 --> 00:56:20,850
wherewithal to maybe begin to make that

1240
00:56:25,940 --> 00:56:23,400
a cause anyhow there's there's my pitch

1241
00:56:27,470 --> 00:56:25,950
now didn't go to little people it's a

1242
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:27,480
little people living underground basis

1243
00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:32,070
I'm just kidding um Janice I know they

1244
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,070
don't oh darn okay well you know they do

1245
00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:37,440
live they do live or they I don't know

1246
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:41,700
they do live underground and the the

1247
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:44,850
reason I got into that book was a man

1248
00:56:50,690 --> 00:56:47,760
who was well respected in the community

1249
00:56:53,690 --> 00:56:50,700
I live in was very elderly at the time

1250
00:56:56,830 --> 00:56:53,700
and well respected he was a World War 2

1251
00:57:00,200 --> 00:56:56,840
hero he was a pastor for over 40 years

1252
00:57:02,740 --> 00:57:00,210
people just respected him and I'd had

1253
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:02,750
many conversations with them and one day

1254
00:57:07,610 --> 00:57:05,400
the subject of the little people came up

1255
00:57:10,070 --> 00:57:07,620
and I'd never paid much attention to the

1256
00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:10,080
the whole idea and he said no they were

1257
00:57:15,050 --> 00:57:12,780
real and he said after World War Two he

1258
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:15,060
was involved with a construction crew at

1259
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:17,640
Western Carolina University which is

1260
00:57:22,910 --> 00:57:20,880
here in Western North Carolina and when

1261
00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:22,920
they would dig into land that supposedly

1262
00:57:32,090 --> 00:57:26,760
was a virgin land they would find these

1263
00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:32,100
little tunnels cut out of red solid clay

1264
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:34,980
and they were square cut with a round

1265
00:57:43,820 --> 00:57:38,480
top typically about three and a half

1266
00:57:45,890 --> 00:57:43,830
maybe four feet tall and they as time

1267
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:45,900
went on these different construction

1268
00:57:52,570 --> 00:57:49,530
people would find these tunnels in many

1269
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:52,580
places on that campus they also found

1270
00:57:58,700 --> 00:57:55,890
little skeletons and one of the stories

1271
00:58:02,390 --> 00:57:58,710
that stands out in my mind was that

1272
00:58:04,660 --> 00:58:02,400
there was a child-size skull sitting on

1273
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:04,670
the desk of one of the science teachers

1274
00:58:10,910 --> 00:58:07,490
kind of like a decorative paper weight

1275
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:10,920
and he just said it was you know a child

1276
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:14,170
skull from a mound in the area

1277
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,090
one of the teachers came up and picked

1278
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:17,920
it up and looked at it more closely and

1279
00:58:32,090 --> 00:58:21,250
said no this skull has its all its

1280
00:58:39,540 --> 00:58:35,280
are you still there I'm here okay all

1281
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:39,550
right so there's many many stories about

1282
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:42,010
the little people when I wrote the book

1283
00:58:47,580 --> 00:58:44,170
I didn't think that any of them were

1284
00:58:50,730 --> 00:58:47,590
still existing but after the book came

1285
00:58:53,550 --> 00:58:50,740
out and after more the Cherokee Cherokee

1286
00:58:56,540 --> 00:58:53,560
people began to talk to me they assured

1287
00:59:00,330 --> 00:58:56,550
me that in the remote parts of the

1288
00:59:02,310 --> 00:59:00,340
Cherokee community they say the little

1289
00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:02,320
people still exist some of the people

1290
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:04,390
will put food out for them occasionally

1291
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:07,570
at night and if they don't they say the

1292
00:59:11,850 --> 00:59:09,010
little people will throw pebbles on the

1293
00:59:15,330 --> 00:59:11,860
roof as if to remind them to you know

1294
00:59:18,570 --> 00:59:15,340
put out the snack so they may they may

1295
00:59:20,340 --> 00:59:18,580
very well still exist so get this okay

1296
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:20,350
talking about the little pebble this

1297
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:23,770
this is fascinating um I don't know if

1298
00:59:29,130 --> 00:59:25,930
you know of the spook lights of Joplin

1299
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:29,140
Missouri where you go to this road and

1300
00:59:32,910 --> 00:59:30,610
like these weird lights show up down

1301
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:32,920
this road and they seemed to come out of

1302
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:36,880
nowhere and and whatnot and I had a

1303
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:39,850
friend that took me down there and we

1304
00:59:43,860 --> 00:59:42,010
were in a hotel we got up at three in

1305
00:59:46,350 --> 00:59:43,870
the morning so we could see what we

1306
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:46,360
could see to go down this little gravel

1307
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:49,450
road for the Joplin spook lights and as

1308
00:59:53,940 --> 00:59:50,890
we're driving along she's like oh by the

1309
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:53,950
way you know there are said to be little

1310
01:00:00,330 --> 00:59:57,130
people that live along the path here and

1311
01:00:04,350 --> 01:00:00,340
they might throw pebbles at the car or

1312
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:04,360
at you know anybody and you know I heard

1313
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:06,160
I heard a couple of tinks on the car

1314
01:00:10,220 --> 01:00:08,050
this is like no way no as do that just

1315
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:10,230
didn't happen it that wasn't the major

1316
01:00:17,850 --> 01:00:13,890
thing that really blew my mind um

1317
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:17,860
because we're standing on the road and

1318
01:00:21,470 --> 01:00:19,510
this little gravel road myself and

1319
01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:21,480
probably bought five other friends and

1320
01:00:26,130 --> 01:00:24,430
over with our flashlights and and we're

1321
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:26,140
waiting for spook lights to show up and

1322
01:00:32,370 --> 01:00:27,970
we hear a couple of pebbles that

1323
01:00:34,410 --> 01:00:32,380
that hit the road I mean we heard it and

1324
01:00:35,790 --> 01:00:34,420
I'm like this is so weird and I'm like

1325
01:00:37,710 --> 01:00:35,800
further down the road than than

1326
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:37,720
everybody else cuz I'm just bowled like

1327
01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:39,609
that you know and so I'm just like

1328
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:42,190
doo-doo-doo looking around and I heard

1329
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:44,410
us two steps in front of me I mean like

1330
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:46,480
little steps and I'm like with my

1331
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:48,310
flashlight like you know cuz he can hear

1332
01:00:54,540 --> 01:00:52,690
it on this it was finally a grain gravel

1333
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:54,550
on this road and I'm like put my

1334
01:00:58,410 --> 01:00:56,050
flashlight don't see anything I'm like I

1335
01:01:00,030 --> 01:00:58,420
hear two more steps and I'm like whoa

1336
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:00,040
something's right in front of me but I

1337
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:01,810
couldn't see it and I'm flashing my

1338
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:04,480
light and tink tink tink tink tink to

1339
01:01:08,099 --> 01:01:06,070
end then it's coming towards me and I

1340
01:01:10,020 --> 01:01:08,109
mean it starts running towards me and

1341
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:10,030
I'm like I'm backing up i'm with my

1342
01:01:13,260 --> 01:01:11,950
flash then like i don't see this and my

1343
01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:13,270
friends are like what what's going on

1344
01:01:16,020 --> 01:01:14,710
i'm like something's coming something's

1345
01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:16,030
coming and they're all with their

1346
01:01:21,660 --> 01:01:19,180
flashlights we don't see anything and I

1347
01:01:25,650 --> 01:01:21,670
mean I finally turn around and do a

1348
01:01:28,859 --> 01:01:25,660
full-on run to the car jump in tuc rogue

1349
01:01:31,859 --> 01:01:28,869
slammed the door in this I'll followed

1350
01:01:34,349 --> 01:01:31,869
me all the way to the car and but I

1351
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:34,359
couldn't see it I couldn't see it in the

1352
01:01:38,430 --> 01:01:36,250
strangest thing though the thing that

1353
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:38,440
came to my head and to the others that

1354
01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:41,050
heard the footsteps they were so pointed

1355
01:01:47,250 --> 01:01:43,750
these little steps that we thought of

1356
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:47,260
hubs tiny homes like pan you know well

1357
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:49,210
but this was the place that you know

1358
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:51,280
little people are said to be and um I

1359
01:01:57,420 --> 01:01:55,330
don't know have you heard of regular

1360
01:01:59,280 --> 01:01:57,430
everyday people that have seen and

1361
01:02:02,550 --> 01:01:59,290
there's even some videos on on YouTube

1362
01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:02,560
that have seen little people like gnomes

1363
01:02:08,070 --> 01:02:06,190
almost walking by getting caught on

1364
01:02:10,380 --> 01:02:08,080
video and but of course how do you know

1365
01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:10,390
if it's for real or not but I mean I've

1366
01:02:13,980 --> 01:02:12,190
heard stories and I had an experience

1367
01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:13,990
that was a little out of the ordinary so

1368
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:15,849
I'm just curious have you got any side

1369
01:02:22,130 --> 01:02:17,440
stories like that that have been sent

1370
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:22,140
your way the book itself focused on

1371
01:02:30,270 --> 01:02:27,970
flesh and blood little people I hear

1372
01:02:33,260 --> 01:02:30,280
stories about the fairies and the little

1373
01:02:35,609 --> 01:02:33,270
tiny creatures they're told with great

1374
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:35,619
conviction that people have actually

1375
01:02:40,410 --> 01:02:39,130
seen them but I chose in this book to

1376
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:40,420
deal with something where there is

1377
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:41,530
actual concrete

1378
01:02:45,930 --> 01:02:43,930
evidence attitudes little people

1379
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:45,940
actually existed it's a little harder to

1380
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:48,910
prove that with the little fairies yes

1381
01:02:56,070 --> 01:02:51,760
yes okay so all right so the the native

1382
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:56,080
Cherokee what is the story behind I mean

1383
01:03:00,450 --> 01:02:58,330
so there's just generations of them but

1384
01:03:02,580 --> 01:03:00,460
why did these what's the story behind

1385
01:03:05,610 --> 01:03:02,590
them living out down and its separate

1386
01:03:07,770 --> 01:03:05,620
like that okay the Cherokee originally

1387
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:07,780
were from the Great Lakes region and

1388
01:03:13,490 --> 01:03:09,850
they moved to the mountains at some

1389
01:03:16,050 --> 01:03:13,500
point when they got here they saw a

1390
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:16,060
well-tended gardens but they didn't see

1391
01:03:20,670 --> 01:03:18,790
any people eventually they saw these

1392
01:03:23,940 --> 01:03:20,680
little people come out from the ground

1393
01:03:26,310 --> 01:03:23,950
and take intend the gardens at at night

1394
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:26,320
by the light of the moon so the Cherokee

1395
01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:27,970
originally called them the moon people

1396
01:03:33,810 --> 01:03:30,550
and they were here before the Cherokee

1397
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:33,820
were here and in the same area of

1398
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:35,770
western north carolina there is a

1399
01:03:43,790 --> 01:03:38,650
mysterious rock called judaculla rock it

1400
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:43,800
it's about 20 by 15 feet in size has

1401
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:46,450
glyphs or something all over it that

1402
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:49,690
nobody has been able to decipher some

1403
01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:52,240
people speculate that that rock may have

1404
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:53,950
been carved by the little people since

1405
01:03:58,620 --> 01:03:56,170
it was here before the Cherokee and

1406
01:04:02,660 --> 01:03:58,630
nobody can make sense of it but to add

1407
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:02,670
to our many many mysteries in this area

1408
01:04:11,610 --> 01:04:08,050
judaculla was a legendary giant among

1409
01:04:13,620 --> 01:04:11,620
the Cherokee and in the same area where

1410
01:04:16,110 --> 01:04:13,630
this rock is that's called judaculla

1411
01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:16,120
rock I have interviewed people who have

1412
01:04:23,390 --> 01:04:19,240
seen Bigfoot so my own working theory is

1413
01:04:26,010 --> 01:04:23,400
that Bigfoot inspired the judaculla rock

1414
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:26,020
legends now I have no way of proving

1415
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:28,210
that but the fact that they're so close

1416
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:31,530
in the same area you have to wonder oh

1417
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:36,250
my goodness okay so nobody like wait

1418
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:37,690
wait wait I got one more thing to yeah

1419
01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:40,240
yeah we have something that's we're

1420
01:04:45,570 --> 01:04:42,640
looking forward to getting the results

1421
01:04:47,850 --> 01:04:45,580
on we had a story that your listeners

1422
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:47,860
might want to read on the Skyships over

1423
01:04:55,410 --> 01:04:52,090
cashiers website and it's called Valley

1424
01:05:00,510 --> 01:04:55,420
of the Bigfoot and the little alien dude

1425
01:05:03,329 --> 01:05:00,520
and it's a very involved story we got a

1426
01:05:06,329 --> 01:05:03,339
very good sample of what we believe to

1427
01:05:09,299 --> 01:05:06,339
be Bigfoot hear that story includes a

1428
01:05:15,059 --> 01:05:09,309
photo of that I'll call it a locket of

1429
01:05:17,309 --> 01:05:15,069
hair and it was so convincing that we

1430
01:05:19,319 --> 01:05:17,319
were contacted by somebody in California

1431
01:05:21,359 --> 01:05:19,329
who was willing to put up the money to

1432
01:05:25,109 --> 01:05:21,369
have it DNA tested because he thought it

1433
01:05:27,180 --> 01:05:25,119
looked that authentic so we we're

1434
01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:27,190
waiting to see what kind of results we

1435
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:30,240
get but it's a really interesting story

1436
01:05:37,799 --> 01:05:32,799
like I said probably too involved it's

1437
01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:37,809
to tell tonight but but it's interesting

1438
01:05:42,690 --> 01:05:39,599
so I will touch it just a little bit

1439
01:05:44,970 --> 01:05:42,700
these people live in a valley that's

1440
01:05:47,370 --> 01:05:44,980
totally surrounded by ridges or

1441
01:05:49,620 --> 01:05:47,380
mountains and it's not easy to access

1442
01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:49,630
but when you get down to the end of this

1443
01:05:57,569 --> 01:05:53,790
narrow road which is wedged between two

1444
01:06:00,650 --> 01:05:57,579
bridges this valley opens up and there's

1445
01:06:04,049 --> 01:06:00,660
two houses there and a horse barn and

1446
01:06:06,809 --> 01:06:04,059
these people had a pond there and with a

1447
01:06:07,950 --> 01:06:06,819
damn and it needed to be repaired and

1448
01:06:12,510 --> 01:06:07,960
when they were out there with

1449
01:06:15,329 --> 01:06:12,520
jackhammers you know pounding away they

1450
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:15,339
suddenly hit something that was open or

1451
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:19,200
hollow and after that they began to have

1452
01:06:26,250 --> 01:06:23,680
Bigfoot episodes they suspect that they

1453
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:26,260
may have busted into a cave that the

1454
01:06:32,210 --> 01:06:28,450
Bigfoot were living in and it didn't it

1455
01:06:34,829 --> 01:06:32,220
all please them and part of that

1456
01:06:37,140 --> 01:06:34,839
guesswork is that there are other caves

1457
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:37,150
in the ridges surrounding this little

1458
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:40,530
Valley and after that the Bigfoot began

1459
01:06:46,829 --> 01:06:43,690
you know eventually breaking into the

1460
01:06:49,530 --> 01:06:46,839
house the people no longer live there

1461
01:06:53,579 --> 01:06:49,540
but they check on it on an almost daily

1462
01:06:59,640 --> 01:06:53,589
basis and there's big footprints and all

1463
01:07:01,470 --> 01:06:59,650
over the place and there are avid rinds

1464
01:07:03,930 --> 01:07:01,480
or the writing that they have attempted

1465
01:07:07,250 --> 01:07:03,940
to do on the walls in the house it looks

1466
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:07,260
like maybe juvenile

1467
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:10,210
Bigfoot have done some of that but you

1468
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:15,930
can see it evolved from scribbles right

1469
01:07:24,210 --> 01:07:19,930
bad teenagers yeah but it's evolved from

1470
01:07:25,770 --> 01:07:24,220
scribbles with a felt tip to stuff that

1471
01:07:28,010 --> 01:07:25,780
looks like attempts at drawing and

1472
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:28,020
writing and so if anybody's interested

1473
01:07:34,290 --> 01:07:31,210
on the homepage of the Skyships website

1474
01:07:36,540 --> 01:07:34,300
on the right hand side we have the 25

1475
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:36,550
most recent postings and you can scroll

1476
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:39,760
down there and find the title and again

1477
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:41,890
it's called Valley of the Bigfoot and

1478
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:44,290
the little alien dude my gosh I'm gonna

1479
01:07:48,090 --> 01:07:46,450
check that out that's sounds fascinating

1480
01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:48,100
you know what's what's really

1481
01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:49,510
interesting you know they talking about

1482
01:07:54,090 --> 01:07:50,830
the little people talking about Bigfoot

1483
01:07:56,730 --> 01:07:54,100
and both of them are known for hurling

1484
01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:56,740
rocks because it's just ruin they will

1485
01:08:01,710 --> 01:07:58,930
throw boulders I had one hurled at me

1486
01:08:03,540 --> 01:08:01,720
once and I couldn't believe it but the

1487
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:03,550
little stones I mean I guess you know

1488
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:06,850
what's-what's handy I mean just throw it

1489
01:08:11,070 --> 01:08:09,130
at him it's like goodness they wouldn't

1490
01:08:13,830 --> 01:08:11,080
like if we threw well you know our books

1491
01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:13,840
Adam or something I don't know but but

1492
01:08:17,340 --> 01:08:15,790
it's interesting because it's like I

1493
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:17,350
haven't heard of anybody being really

1494
01:08:23,460 --> 01:08:20,710
pelted badly by these these attacks

1495
01:08:26,940 --> 01:08:23,470
never you I never hear stories about

1496
01:08:29,789 --> 01:08:26,950
either of those species actually her

1497
01:08:32,430 --> 01:08:29,799
hurting people no yeah I haven't either

1498
01:08:35,999 --> 01:08:32,440
that's really wild but it's oh my

1499
01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:36,009
goodness ok so the these Cherokee little

1500
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:40,450
people they were real and for the most

1501
01:08:43,890 --> 01:08:41,920
part though they have gone so far

1502
01:08:45,870 --> 01:08:43,900
underground that you know only the

1503
01:08:47,579 --> 01:08:45,880
Native Americans are aware of their

1504
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:47,589
presence I mean you know I think I don't

1505
01:08:51,900 --> 01:08:50,319
think there's that many left I think at

1506
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:51,910
one time there there must have been a

1507
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:54,370
whole lot more in this area but there

1508
01:09:00,570 --> 01:08:57,250
are some that you know apparently the

1509
01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:00,580
Cherokee say still exists here it you

1510
01:09:04,710 --> 01:09:02,799
know it was interesting to me when you

1511
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:04,720
said that you know they were found

1512
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:07,810
tending to gardens one of my former

1513
01:09:14,579 --> 01:09:09,730
really good friends that I knew some

1514
01:09:17,730 --> 01:09:14,589
time ago she was down Sedona was a was

1515
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:17,740
exiting her hotel her motel room and and

1516
01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:20,130
there was a little person like

1517
01:09:27,410 --> 01:09:23,310
tending to this plant outside and she

1518
01:09:30,110 --> 01:09:27,420
just froze wow I just like and she

1519
01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:30,120
walked really slow God her friend said

1520
01:09:36,410 --> 01:09:34,049
look out the window they both saw this

1521
01:09:40,129 --> 01:09:36,420
perfectly proportioned proportion little

1522
01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:40,139
person like tending to the plants and

1523
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:43,409
just Hina uh you know bent down and then

1524
01:09:47,209 --> 01:09:45,120
just never rose back up again they

1525
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:47,219
they're like they she's like I saw this

1526
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:49,770
little person I'm like well okay so it's

1527
01:09:54,620 --> 01:09:52,080
really interesting do you know how big

1528
01:09:57,050 --> 01:09:54,630
or how tall the little person was I

1529
01:09:59,419 --> 01:09:57,060
wanna say I want to say it with a couple

1530
01:10:02,030 --> 01:09:59,429
of feet yeah that's about what I hear

1531
01:10:03,770 --> 01:10:02,040
hear yeah so at that that was just

1532
01:10:06,740 --> 01:10:03,780
mind-blowing but she was just blown away

1533
01:10:08,510 --> 01:10:06,750
and how it you know when it dipped down

1534
01:10:10,610 --> 01:10:08,520
and she couldn't see it anymore and as

1535
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:10,620
she like took a couple steps out to see

1536
01:10:15,260 --> 01:10:12,330
where it went and it was gone you know

1537
01:10:16,970 --> 01:10:15,270
it's like where'd it go well the whole

1538
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:16,980
topic of the little people in this area

1539
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:20,250
gets a little bit complicated because

1540
01:10:26,899 --> 01:10:22,730
I've gotten three different descriptions

1541
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:26,909
the first one that I mentioned with the

1542
01:10:32,300 --> 01:10:28,770
gardens they were described as having

1543
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:32,310
blue tinted skin and large eyes and of

1544
01:10:34,850 --> 01:10:33,510
course any creature this living

1545
01:10:37,939 --> 01:10:34,860
underground is going to probably have

1546
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:37,949
large eyes there is also a description

1547
01:10:42,290 --> 01:10:39,840
of little people which is the most

1548
01:10:44,290 --> 01:10:42,300
common and they simply look like a

1549
01:10:47,870 --> 01:10:44,300
smaller version of the Cherokee people

1550
01:10:50,570 --> 01:10:47,880
there's a third version and they are

1551
01:10:54,860 --> 01:10:50,580
described as having red whiskers and

1552
01:10:58,850 --> 01:10:54,870
looking much more like a leprechaun one

1553
01:11:03,470 --> 01:10:58,860
of the old-timers that you know was in

1554
01:11:06,050 --> 01:11:03,480
the book had found a little medallion

1555
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:06,060
that has a face on each side of it that

1556
01:11:10,250 --> 01:11:08,010
looks like a leprechaun in fact in the

1557
01:11:13,970 --> 01:11:10,260
book I have a leprechaun's profile next

1558
01:11:16,250 --> 01:11:13,980
to this medallion and he found that back

1559
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:16,260
in nineteen forty when there was a very

1560
01:11:23,300 --> 01:11:19,440
historic flood here and tons of topsoil

1561
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:23,310
or land was washed away and that's when

1562
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:26,730
this showed up and he's you know he's

1563
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:29,760
still living today and he says he called

1564
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:32,640
he calls it is his lead head

1565
01:11:40,540 --> 01:11:36,710
to tie it even more in another way a

1566
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:40,550
number of moonshiners back in the 1930s

1567
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:44,370
were building their still way at the top

1568
01:11:48,770 --> 01:11:46,890
of one of the mountains and of course

1569
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:48,780
they didn't want to be discovered but

1570
01:11:53,150 --> 01:11:50,610
when they were preparing their their

1571
01:11:56,420 --> 01:11:53,160
still site they came across the pile of

1572
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:56,430
little bones or little people bones they

1573
01:11:59,600 --> 01:11:58,170
didn't tell anybody about it during the

1574
01:12:03,170 --> 01:11:59,610
Prohibition because they didn't want

1575
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:03,180
their site revealed but the Cherokee of

1576
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:04,770
this ties together was something else

1577
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:06,840
because the Cherokee at that time did

1578
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:09,360
not like the little people with the red

1579
01:12:13,940 --> 01:12:11,130
whiskers and they would try to kill them

1580
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:13,950
so here's a pile of these a pile of

1581
01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:16,320
these little people bones and you

1582
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:18,510
combine that with the story of them not

1583
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:20,130
liking the ones with the red whiskers

1584
01:12:26,810 --> 01:12:23,280
and the little medallion and you go hmm

1585
01:12:28,850 --> 01:12:26,820
this is very multifaceted the Fighting

1586
01:12:33,170 --> 01:12:28,860
Irish maybe they had a bad temper could

1587
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:33,180
be good dude goodness that's interesting

1588
01:12:38,270 --> 01:12:36,480
so wow I wonder what the what their TIFF

1589
01:12:41,210 --> 01:12:38,280
was you know what was going on with that

1590
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:41,220
that I can't answer that is fascinating

1591
01:12:44,990 --> 01:12:43,530
it you know I've been hearing you know

1592
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:45,000
they scattered little stories and

1593
01:12:49,220 --> 01:12:47,010
findings even over in Ireland somewhere

1594
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:49,230
of you know somebody found a little cave

1595
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:51,810
with a little furniture down it and it's

1596
01:12:55,940 --> 01:12:53,730
like you know why is this here you know

1597
01:12:59,630 --> 01:12:55,950
is it a practical joke you know it's

1598
01:13:02,740 --> 01:12:59,640
just I wish that people could be true to

1599
01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:02,750
their findings and be upfront and

1600
01:13:07,130 --> 01:13:05,100
indirect because I just think there's so

1601
01:13:09,710 --> 01:13:07,140
much to be found and unearthed out there

1602
01:13:13,370 --> 01:13:09,720
but you know with so many you know

1603
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:13,380
potential falsehoods I I mean people

1604
01:13:17,060 --> 01:13:14,850
just question everything I'm like I

1605
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:17,070
think one of the most powerful things is

1606
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:18,570
taking our neighbors word for something

1607
01:13:23,390 --> 01:13:21,090
if you know the person that's reporting

1608
01:13:25,850 --> 01:13:23,400
or somebody you know it's just just

1609
01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:25,860
trying to have that backing and be able

1610
01:13:30,290 --> 01:13:28,710
to stand strong and in their convictions

1611
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:30,300
and what it is that they're witnessing

1612
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:31,770
and what they're bringing forward I

1613
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:34,080
think that that's a powerful thing and I

1614
01:13:38,260 --> 01:13:35,850
think that we need to get back to that

1615
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:38,270
because there's so much that may be

1616
01:13:43,610 --> 01:13:41,280
overlooked and what do we do what do we

1617
01:13:46,190 --> 01:13:43,620
do about that what do you suggest well

1618
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:46,200
when I've interviewed I think about five

1619
01:13:48,649 --> 01:13:46,530
or so

1620
01:13:51,049 --> 01:13:48,659
different people who you know had

1621
01:13:53,359 --> 01:13:51,059
experiences with Bigfoot and every

1622
01:13:56,779 --> 01:13:53,369
single one of them has wanted to protect

1623
01:13:58,490 --> 01:13:56,789
the Bigfoot you know they don't want the

1624
01:14:00,220 --> 01:13:58,500
public to know exactly where they're

1625
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:00,230
located where they where they are

1626
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:03,690
because they don't want them to be you

1627
01:14:07,939 --> 01:14:05,250
know bothered they don't want the the

1628
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:07,949
local Bigfoot hunters to come out and

1629
01:14:14,839 --> 01:14:11,760
find them and one of the guys that I

1630
01:14:16,939 --> 01:14:14,849
interviewed he said referring to one of

1631
01:14:18,770 --> 01:14:16,949
the shows that hunts down the Bigfoot he

1632
01:14:20,899 --> 01:14:18,780
said now how would you like it if

1633
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:20,909
somebody pulled up in your yard and

1634
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:24,960
started blasting loud rock music from

1635
01:14:29,689 --> 01:14:27,210
their car and flashing their lights he

1636
01:14:31,310 --> 01:14:29,699
said you'd be throwing rocks too and he

1637
01:14:34,669 --> 01:14:31,320
was referring to the way that they're

1638
01:14:36,770 --> 01:14:34,679
out there blasting Bigfoot calls and you

1639
01:14:41,330 --> 01:14:36,780
know doing all this kind of stuff trying

1640
01:14:43,129 --> 01:14:41,340
to capture a Bigfoot and as much as I

1641
01:14:45,470 --> 01:14:43,139
would like the truth of the Bigfoot to

1642
01:14:48,379 --> 01:14:45,480
come out I don't like the way it's being

1643
01:14:50,510 --> 01:14:48,389
done and I don't think that we should

1644
01:14:52,580 --> 01:14:50,520
put the Bigfoot or the little people in

1645
01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:52,590
jeopardy so that's part of the reason

1646
01:14:57,950 --> 01:14:55,440
that people don't totally come forward

1647
01:15:00,290 --> 01:14:57,960
with all the information in a public way

1648
01:15:03,620 --> 01:15:00,300
yeah that makes sense it you know I

1649
01:15:05,930 --> 01:15:03,630
wanted to touch quickly upon a topic

1650
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:05,940
with the underground bases because I I

1651
01:15:12,799 --> 01:15:09,210
mentioned briefly that I'd had I don't

1652
01:15:14,299 --> 01:15:12,809
know I was grabbed I lived alone i woke

1653
01:15:16,910 --> 01:15:14,309
up an underground facility being

1654
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:16,920
questioned by military personnel being

1655
01:15:21,529 --> 01:15:19,050
asked where are they you got to help us

1656
01:15:24,939 --> 01:15:21,539
find them and I knew what they were

1657
01:15:28,010 --> 01:15:24,949
speaking of being alien beings and

1658
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:28,020
seeing that was one of the one of the

1659
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:30,690
occasions and then having another

1660
01:15:36,799 --> 01:15:33,690
encounter where I mean I was kind of

1661
01:15:40,250 --> 01:15:36,809
rendered like a puppet walking through a

1662
01:15:43,790 --> 01:15:40,260
facility and there being a line of other

1663
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:43,800
people in their pajamas mmm you know and

1664
01:15:49,339 --> 01:15:46,800
I was and I was wide awake and I'm all I

1665
01:15:51,919 --> 01:15:49,349
had a control over what were my eyes and

1666
01:15:53,450 --> 01:15:51,929
I'm I'm I was probably standing there

1667
01:15:56,270 --> 01:15:53,460
for a good couple hours or more and I'm

1668
01:15:58,729 --> 01:15:56,280
like this is happening I am here holy

1669
01:16:00,200 --> 01:15:58,739
smokes why do they have me here you know

1670
01:16:02,780 --> 01:16:00,210
and watching guys

1671
01:16:05,690 --> 01:16:02,790
full camouflage rifles pacing back and

1672
01:16:07,370 --> 01:16:05,700
forth and oh my tell I tell you I I

1673
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:07,380
smacked one of them and everything it

1674
01:16:14,180 --> 01:16:11,520
was it was a great thrill so when you

1675
01:16:15,709 --> 01:16:14,190
hear of these these underground bases

1676
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:15,719
and a talk about the experiments and

1677
01:16:19,490 --> 01:16:17,730
their ability to be able to wipe a

1678
01:16:21,020 --> 01:16:19,500
person's memory like I don't know how I

1679
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:21,030
got there I don't know how I got back I

1680
01:16:24,650 --> 01:16:23,040
know I was there I know that it happened

1681
01:16:28,550 --> 01:16:24,660
I know that I had one that happened

1682
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:28,560
someplace else that was um in a mountain

1683
01:16:32,420 --> 01:16:31,050
range and it was it was invasive add

1684
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:32,430
anything and everything that I've ever

1685
01:16:37,550 --> 01:16:35,489
had happen or experience nothing is made

1686
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:37,560
me more angry than having our own

1687
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:39,450
so-called people who are here to protect

1688
01:16:44,959 --> 01:16:43,290
us at betrayus so I think that should

1689
01:16:47,420 --> 01:16:44,969
get a lot of people in an uproar I mean

1690
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:47,430
and taking another person's word for

1691
01:16:52,130 --> 01:16:49,050
having experienced some of these

1692
01:16:53,959 --> 01:16:52,140
horrible things you know if one person

1693
01:16:55,790 --> 01:16:53,969
gets abducted that's one to one person

1694
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:55,800
too many and people get ticked when they

1695
01:16:59,390 --> 01:16:58,050
hear about it but then you say something

1696
01:17:02,180 --> 01:16:59,400
so far-fetched it's just not quite

1697
01:17:04,340 --> 01:17:02,190
believed but I wanted you to get that or

1698
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:04,350
not you're not the only one who's

1699
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:08,010
afforded that there are military people

1700
01:17:11,690 --> 01:17:09,840
involved with aliens with some of these

1701
01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:11,700
abductions and they have seen both at

1702
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:13,680
the same time oh yeah yeah in your own

1703
01:17:18,740 --> 01:17:16,170
mind do you have any idea why you were

1704
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,750
all right i think you know i do i do

1705
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:20,880
something i can i wish i could get into

1706
01:17:23,780 --> 01:17:22,410
it but we have less than a minute and i

1707
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:23,790
want you to have the chance to tell

1708
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:25,010
people how they could get a hold of you

1709
01:17:32,090 --> 01:17:28,290
okay the website is Skyships over

1710
01:17:35,150 --> 01:17:32,100
cashiers com the books are all available

1711
01:17:37,870 --> 01:17:35,160
on Amazon one is called Cherokee little

1712
01:17:40,820 --> 01:17:37,880
people were real one is underground

1713
01:17:44,420 --> 01:17:40,830
military bases hidden in North Carolina

1714
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:44,430
mountains and one is tangible evidence

1715
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:47,610
of Jesus left behind for us to find all

1716
01:17:52,910 --> 01:17:50,400
of them are written in a magazine type

1717
01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:52,920
style where there's lots of photos or

1718
01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:55,920
pictures or Maps along with the writing

1719
01:18:01,400 --> 01:17:58,650
and it's all in easy-to-read condensed

1720
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:01,410
form so they love it well anybody can

1721
01:18:05,390 --> 01:18:03,570
read it all right well thank you so much

1722
01:18:06,620 --> 01:18:05,400
mary joyce this was an absolute blast I

1723
01:18:08,330 --> 01:18:06,630
definitely have to have you come back

1724
01:18:10,729 --> 01:18:08,340
because we have so much more to cover my

1725
01:18:12,260 --> 01:18:10,739
goodness everybody this would quick you

1726
01:18:13,169 --> 01:18:12,270
know I always think you guys for tuning

1727
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:13,179
in and remember

1728
01:18:16,739 --> 01:18:15,010
night terrors anything of the sort

1729
01:18:19,020 --> 01:18:16,749
please have people write me at dusk

1730
01:18:20,459 --> 01:18:19,030
Outlander at gmail com remember you can

1731
01:18:21,839 --> 01:18:20,469
catch me here every Friday 9 p.m.

1732
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:21,849
Eastern a p.m. central you've been

1733
01:18:24,750 --> 01:18:23,050
listening to me heidi hollis the

1734
01:18:26,969 --> 01:18:24,760
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